Steven Robbins on Titicaca's Recent Uplift

This item was written a couple ofyears back.  What is important is thepart underlined.  After that we get an eccentricinterpretation and historical reconstruction lacking a convincing scientificbasis.

What is real is the impossible realityof the seaport in the High Andes and the Pleistocene strata buried in the Himalayas.  Thisand much else in terms of geological evidence continue to be outright ignored.  In fact there is massive evidence that thesepoints are not even particularly unique.

Yet this is the first time that Ihave seen the argument for recent mountain building taking place around 12.900years ago fully spelled out outside my own writing in the PleistoceneNonconformity in particular.

I get everything I want without destroyingEarth by impacting the crust with a comet. The crust lets go and shifts thirty degrees before been halted.  Two equatorial zones slide into naturalcompression zones and two other zones must subside (Gulf of Mexico and south Indian Ocean).

Beyond this those ocean fossilswill have organic content and can be aged with carbon 14 testing.  Those directly associated with docks shouldbe.

Carbon 14 work has been done onmore recent habitation zones but I see no indication of deeper work or ofworking with the shells.

None of that matters except wehave convincing evidence that sea bottom material rose two miles.  That is the fact that must be addressed.  It is bigfoot walking into a doctor’s office.

Exploring the True Story of the Events of 10,000 B.C.By Stephen Robbins,Ph.D.

Twelve miles south of LakeTiticaca, the ruins of the ancient of city of Tiahuanaco speak in eloquent silence. Due tothe alignments of the city’s massive observatory, the Kalasasaya, thearcheoastronomer Rolf Müller argued that the city had been constructed in15,000 B.C. Its massive stone docks are ringed with ocean fossils. The citywas a seaport. It rests today, miles from any water, let alone the sea, on anAndean plateau, 13,300 feet above sea level. Archaeolo­gists vaguely wonderhow and why the city, with its huge, 400-ton dressed stones, was built at thiselevation. In inim­itable archaeological style, it was once considered aceremonial-only “ritual city,” as if the primitive peoples of archae­ologists’prehistory had the time and energy to do this. Now the city is just notconsidered, for Tiahuanaco mocks the academiccommunity: Your entire consensus on the prehistory of this planet is wrong.
A little-understood featureof geological understanding is that virtually every mountain range on theplanet rose “at the end of the Pleistocene (12,000 to 13,000 years ago).” Allthe mountains of the world belong to either of two great systems—theCircum-Pacific or the Alpine-Himalayan. When the great plate of the Indiansubcontinent moved far enough north to contact the Eurasian plate, the twocompressed and folded, forming the immensely high Hima­layas,nowhere lower than 24,000 feet. The Kashmir valley rose 6,000 feetsimultaneously. The process can be dated precisely—the valley containedPleistocene fossils, and the Himalayas werefolded over Pleistocene gravel beds. The Pir Panjals, part of the westernHimalayas, and the rugged, soaring Kailas roseat the same time. To the west, the Afri­can plate moved north as well,up-folding the Alps, the Pyrenees and theAtlas range. The highest Alpine peaks reach 15,000 feet, and the uplift of theoriginal 2,000-feet-high north Italian hills was another 13,000 feet. Thereis little erosion on these peaks; they are recent creations. A recent academicstudy breathlessly announced the “surprising discovery” that the Andes rose “quickly,” over the course of three millionyears, beginning only seven million years ago. For this theory, Tiahuanaco emits a sigh.
All these processes werelinked. They occurred at the “end of the Pleistocene.” It is not a riskydeduction to as­sume that at the end of the Pleistocene, Tiahuanaco left itsplace by the sea forever, accompanied by the rest of the Andes.It was not alone. Something vast took place at the end of the Pleistocene,something that required enormous forces.
10,000 B.C.—Not a Good Time
It is “Journey to 10,000B.C.” on the History Channel. Several mammoths plod along in a scenario ofwestern rock bluffs, sparse vegetation and cold during a lessening of the IceAge, while Clovis hunters in fur skins—apparently the only level ofcivilization on planet archeology—chip away at their spear points. To the northis the massive Laurentide ice sheet covering much of North America and Europe to a depth of 2-4 kilometers (1.2 to 2.5 miles).It is just be­fore the Younger Dryas (the return in force of the ice) around12,900 years ago, yes, at the “end of the Pleistocene.” Though it is clearlystated that the 20,000 lb. creatures must munch 700 pounds of feed a day, thearchaeologist-consultants are apparently oblivious to the incongruity betweenthis food requirement and the picture of the climate they present. Meanwhile,we see a fairly dumb mammoth has gotten stuck in the La Brea tar pits, a low-IQ saber-toothed tigerleaping on top of the mammoth’s back, and an intellectually challengeddire-wolf attempting the same, all contributing to the inexhaustible pile ofskeletons in these tar pools. These mammoths and this Cloviscivilization, along with the saber-toothed tigers, dire-wolves, bear-sizedbeavers and seventy other species disappeared with the beginning of the YoungerDryas. The narration first explores the comfortable, gradualist hypothesis thatthe drainage route from the Laurentide sheet changed from the Mississippi tothe St. Lawrence, causing a change in the Atlantic ocean currents sufficient tocause a ten-degree drop in world temperature and a great re-expansion of theice. A little reluctantly, an alternative catastrophist theory is alsodescribed.
But what about thosemountains?…
Historical Parameters

There is an equation to besolved, whether by one event or by several. Tiahuanacois the first parameter to be held in mind. The second: it requires tremendousforces, applied globally,to lift world-mountains in a geological instant. The third is the menu of themammoths. The fourth is a parameter and a problem: In theory, the greatLaurentide Ice Sheet began 125,000 years ago. As Graham Hancock (Underworld) recounts brilliantly,three massive floods would occur, pouring down the Mississippi drainage basin. The firststarted roughly at 14,000 B.C.—close enough to be the “end of the Pleistocene.”The next was around 9,000 B.C., and the last around 5,000 B.C., effectivelyending the Ice Age. This sequence was caused by the sudden collapse of ice damsrestraining three huge Ice Age lakes, respective­ly, the Ontario (over 700,000cubic kilometers released at once), then the Agassiz, and then the Ojibway. Intotal, these and other floods raised the world ocean 120 meters. Hancock feltthese floods buried several civilizations, un­wisely parked on what was oncedry land, near the sea. The great release of pressure from the ice at thesetimes un­doubtedly caused tremendous stresses and compensations (isostacy) inthe earth’s jello-like crust, inducing great earthquakes. However, no onesuggests these forces could have raised the Himalayas.Nor would the form of these floods, massive as they were, correspond to theviolence and duration of the events described with Noah.
The creation of this massiveice sheet, supposedly 100,000 years earlier, required the swiping of water fromthe world ocean to a depth of 165 meters. How can such a tremendous amount ofocean be turned to water vapor, and then ice? The fourth parameter then: tobegin an Ice Age, it takes a powerful source of heat. The heat is needed toevaporate water, the water vapor to make a voluminous rain. Then and only thendoes freezing cold become the next necessary ingredient for ice.
The Ice Age was invented toexplain the presence of “erratics.” These massive stones are foundeverywhere—one of 10,000 tons in New Hampshire, 13,500 tons in Ohio, big andlittle erratics in the Sahara, Mongolia, Uruguay, Eu­rope, slammed into theLabrador hillsides. Something moved them there. The theory of an ice sheetmoving them slowly as it crept, initiated by Louis Agassiz and influentially backedby the gradualist Charles Lyell, was eventually accepted. But pesky laws ofphysics posed a problem—ice does not move by itself and it cannot move uphill.To solve this, a vast and high mountain range in the arctic north, from whichthe ice could flow, was invented. The range has never been found. Then, toaccount for continuing discoveries of warm weather plants and fossils,inter-glacial peri­ods began to be posited—two, then three, then four…seven.The forgotten and mythical mountains of the Arcticpopped up and down like a jack-in-the-box.
It is truly a questionwhether the great Laurentide ice sheet actually existed before the great eventthat raised Tia­huanaco. The scenario we areabout to view will propose that all the parameters can be accounted forby one event. I paintit as only a beginning of the kind of parametric-integration theory required.It will hold that the Laurentide did not pre-exist the event. That the first ofthe great Laurentide floods is thought to be around 14,000 B.C. seems proble­matic,for the scenario will imply that this first flood actually came after the “10,000 B.C.” (or so)event to be de­scribed, but our dating methodologies are less than precise(see AR #70). Thefirst flood date could be too early—and mistaken. Something started the IceAge; something initiated the end of the Ice Age. The “it” could be one and thesame. This initial lake-release event and its timing: a fifth parameter. Thatthere are ruins of civilizations now under the sea, there is great evidence—asixth parameter. Does this imply a 100,000-year period available tocivilization on portions of dry land, made possible only by the ice sheet? Perhaps not.Finally, a seventh parameter: something came through the solar system, wreakinghavoc, and not so long ago.

“And There Was War in Heaven…”

What entered the solar systemwas more than a mass of supernova debris. Oxford astronomer Victor Clube andhis colleague William Napier argued that a giant comet entered the system andbegan to fragment, causing ruin, “less than 20,000 years ago.” Brennan (The Atlantis Enigma) in a brillianttreatment I am largely following, argues rather for the source in a supernovain the constellation Vela, an event roughly 12,000 B.C., only 45 light yearsaway. What came, he argued, was a blazing fragment of an exploded star, perhaps100 times the volume of earth. Brennan names it Vela-F. In its path was a solarsystem in much different shape than it is now, a system with planets withupright axis and orbits after Newton’sown heart. The massive intruder began an assault, a warpath through the solarsystem. First, perhaps, it encountered a small planet in an orbit outside ofPluto today, smashing it to bits, leaving the Kuiper belt in its wake. Then,encountering Neptune, it disrupted the two moons, Triton and Nereid, leavingthe strange or­bits they possess today, throwing a former Neptunian moon,Pluto, into its present position, and tilting Neptune 29 degrees. But Neptune, with its massive field, at least managed toredirect Vela-F, hurtling it towards an encounter with Uranus, speeding thisplanet’s rotation and knocking it on its side, leaving its rotation in the sameplane as its orbit. Saturn was next. Whether the encounter created Saturn’smassive rings, with their many tiny bodies, is un­clear, but its rotationappears to have sped up, and the moon Phoebe put into a retro orbit. Jupiter,the next in line, seems unscathed, perhaps due to an orbital position at themoment located away from the fray. Vela-F hurtled on.

Before it lay what is now theasteroid belt. According to Ovenden’s refinement of Bode’s law, a Saturn-sizedgas giant with a mass 90 times that of earth should have occupied this orbit,and though the material volume of the 5000+ asteroids in the belt is not commensuratewith this size, a gas giant may have had little in terms of solid core. If someform of planet was there at this time, there may have been an actual collision,exploding the planet, hurtling a bombardment of debris towards its neighbors,one being Mars. There is no question that Mars was obliterated by a veritableshotgun blast of large, high velocity bodies. Over 3,000 gouged 30kilometer-minimum craters; there were myriad smaller hits. Olympus Mons,27 kilometers (85,500ft) above the Mars plain, rises on the planet’s side opposite three of thelargest impacts (630 km, 1000 km, 2000 km). A 4,500-mile rift, the VallesMarineris, runs four times deeper, six times wider than the Grand Canyon (Hancock, TheMars Mystery). The crust of the entire northern hemi­sphere, 3-4kilometers in thickness, was ripped off.
But when and where?
Life on Earth in the “Ice Age”
At the time, the earth had anear vertical axis. It had and needed, I believe, no moon. The Proselenes of Greece, notedAristotle, claimed to exist before the moon. So did the Arcadians and otherpeoples. The earth’s rotation was slower. Due to these conditions the worldclimate was balmy, nearly tropical, with virtually no seasons. There was no IceAge, no Laurentide ice sheet. Some of the water of the world’s oceans may havebeen held in the atmosphere as water vapor. The oceans may have been a littlelower, allowing Hancock’s now-submerged cultures. The planet sus­tained vastforests of massive trees and lush vegetation, and huge populations of largeanimals. In this clime, 20,000 lb. mammoths could easily order 700 pounds offood from the daily menu.
The garden of earth may nothave been as perfect as it once was. Perhaps there was once an even greaterconcen­tration of oxygen. Why were there once dragonflies with two-footwingspans? Why enormous brontosaurs with nos­trils scarcely enough to support ahorse? This is yet another “parameter.” These questions beg answers. But atthis time, the dinosaurs had already been (mostly?) extinguished, perhaps bythe asteroid(s) of the K/T boundary event, though not nearly so long ago as theorthodox consensus, with its shaky dating methods, believes. But as a cataclys­micevent, this and others earlier did not have the effect on the axis or compareto what was about to come.
Tiahuanaco did not represent the only civilization atthe time. There was a global civilization. The evidence is ubiquitous—thewater-worn Sphinx, the underwater structures in the Pacific, the cities of theBrazilian jungle— there is no need to detail this here. Its existence was aboutto be so thoroughly obliterated by the forces to come that archaeologists havemanaged to ignore the remnants. Suffice it to say, the spectacular trail andcosmic battles of Vela-F did not go unnoticed or unrecorded. Revelations, is one example: “Awonder in heaven…A woman clothed with the sun (the star) and the moon underfeet (with perhaps the moon in tow) …” Rather than a prediction, it is arecording, the ancient record of the events encompassing the end of a worldcivilization with its trade and commerce
– the “great city,”“destroyed in one day,” for which “the merchants of the earth shall weep andmourn”—revamped in Christian style.
Earth versus Star
As the star remnantapproached, its gravitational force took hold. The earth’s lithospheric shellbegan to fracture. The Great Rift Valley of Africa, up to 100 miles wide,extends 3,000 miles from Mozambiqueto Syria.The great tec­tonic plates began to move and buckle. The mountain ranges werethrust to enormous heights. Volcanoes erupted globally, rivers of lava flowed,millions of tons of hot ash began to encircle and darken the planet. Theinevitable ef­fect on earth’s rotation spawned violent, global winds.Simultaneously, with the great heat of the star, the world’s oceans wereboiling, evaporating, and the result: a massive, seemingly unending rain,driven by hurricane-force winds. Given the darkening of the planet, this fellas snow in the northern regions. This was the beginning of the Flood, but onlythe beginning. With the plate subduction and mountain raising, rivers changedcourse, seas began to empty. As the 1,500 mile Tien Shan range rose, the greatHan Hai sea, 2,000 miles long by 700 miles wide, once in human memory occupyingthe Gobi basin, emptied in one enormousoutpouring.
As the star moved closer,trailing an array of captured bodies and debris, even splinters of itself (the“crown of twelve stars”), a massive bombardment of projectiles ensued. Therecord of these strikes is in fact found in craters now being discovered (manyvia satellite) all over the earth, not just the Carolina Bays. The earth’s axisswung through 30 degrees, from 7 degrees in one direction to 23 degrees in theother, carrying wonderfully temperate re­gions with masses of animals towardsthe pole. But the most remarkable effect was yet to come.
Given the (newly acquired)tilt of the earth’s axis, the star is likely to have passed over the northernregions of the planet. Due to its gravitational field, the entire world oceanbegan to flow north. When the people emerged from their mountaintop cave, therewas water as far as the eye could see. Perhaps the Grand Canyon is simplyanother great rift, but it also looks suspiciously like a very large and deepversion of the Scablands of eastern Washington, themselves formed soon afterthis event by the bursting of an ice dam holding back Ice Age Lake Missoula.
Eventually, these waterswould drain, interspersed with the great periodic floods from the melting icesheet. After centuries, agriculture would begin again—always starting,appropriately, at higher altitudes—the first levels to drain. Huge herds ofmammoths would be found quick-frozen in the once very temperate north. Anisland near Siberia would be found, appearingto be entirely composed of mammoths, cemented in a frozen mass. Caves would befound in Sicily, Crete, Malta, England, Austria, Germany, Poland,Czechoslovakia, Lebanon, Russia, China, Australia, New Mexico, Oregon, Nevada,Brazil, and other locations all over the planet with intermingled masses offragmented skele­tons of animals—hippos, rhinos, horses, sloths, mammoths,deer, bison, lions, humans, even whales and sharks— crushed and transported bythe rushing waves and slammed by chance into any openings in the water’s path.The La Brea tarpits would confuse archaeologists for years with the strange stupidity of theanimals deposited in-mass there. And a moon whose origin, method of capture,anomalous density, and rotational properties yet cannot be explained, wouldhang in the sky in precisely the correct position over the once-garden planet,gently modulating tides and sta­bilizing earth’s axis.
by dougkenyon - November 1st, 2008.
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